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  • #75393 Reply

    Huu Tran

    Hi:

    Knowing that uniform is one of the method in scouting; however, would someone give me a better explanation that why dinner time it requires scouts in their full uniform? Was there a history/story behind that requirement?

    Thanks,
    YiS,
    H. Tran

  • #75475 Reply

    Middletownscouter

    Generally before the evening meal at Scout camps, there is a flag lowering ceremony.

    While it may have been different in the past, now days the requirement to wear uniforms to the evening meal isn’t so much to ensure everyone is in uniform for the meal, but that everyone is in uniform for the flag lowering as a sign of respect.

  • #75477 Reply

    Scouter

    Traditionally this is because flag ceremony is just before dinner. At most camps they use to do this for breakfast too, but more recently most camps have gone to activity uniform for morning flag and breakfast due to time constraints in sending scouts back to camp before the first activity.

  • #75515 Reply

    Q

    The beauty of a patrol-cooking summer camp: cook and cleanup in camp, then grab your field uniform for formation. First, we bring the colors down in our camp, then we advance to the parade field for the lowering of the camp’s colors and evening program. It’s up to the patrol if they suit up for any given meal.

  • #75618 Reply

    Huu Tran

    I would agree that full uniform is for the lowering of the camp’s color. However, there was such an inconvenience that scouts have to grab their uniform for dinner as they just finishing their cooking in their activity clothes. The SM of the troop said it is because there is rule/requirement.

    • #75674 Reply

      Q

      Sounds like the camp may have had an expectation that everybody show up for evening program in full uniform, and your scouts weren’t used to doing that promptly. They’ll get better.

      If the boys think this is a problem, suggest this: there’s nothing wrong with cooking, eating, and cleaning up in uniform. That’s why they call it a field uniform. Let them decide if they want to change before dinner or before clean up. Or, take turns cleaning up, so part of the patrol can change, then switch off with the boys who started clean up.

      Needless to say, if a patrol decides that they’d rather have their field uniform on and ready to go during meal prep, your troop may want to invest in some quality aprons!

  • #133311 Reply

    Ken

    I am coming to this discussion late, but I may have something to add. As a Scout I was bad for not being in correct uniform. One summer camp I found myself as SPL. I had to face my least favorite topic; being in uniform for evening flags, and to make it worse other scouts in the troop did not want to be in uniform either. Needless to say there was much discourse (our new SM did not attend camp that year, so my father and other dads stepped in to get us to camp. This was my first lesson in setting a good example. After much discussion I yielded to my dad’s better judgement and put on the full uniform. Not fully convinced when I announced full uniforms for flags I still received lots of grousing, but it was an easier sell to say that if “I’m in uniform you guys have to do it as well”! We got in the habit and as a troop we got past the pettiness of full uniform for flags. Now after a military career and work in the civilian world I believe there is much value in wearing the uniform. 1) It symbolizes our membership in a much larger organization with values and traditions. 2) It sets a good example for all to follow. 3) It re-enforces cooperation and high standards. 4) our uniform tells our individual story and that of our troop, because our accomplishments and scout spirit are on display. 5) It re-enforces a sense of pride in who we are as Scouts and Scouters. My troop is not perfect. New scouts and youngers scouts still need to break the code, but typically after one summer camp and COH their on-board! Leaders just set the example and the rest will follow! I am really grateful to my dad for setting me down and making me a believer in setting the example!

    Ken Bowers
    YiS

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