First look: Troop Leader Guidebooks, set to replace Scoutmaster Handbook

scoutmaster-handbookUpdate, July 23, 2015: Volume 1 is available now at and your local Scout Shop. Read about Vol. 1 here.

If you judge the Scoutmaster Handbook by its cover, you might assume it’s solely meant for, well, Scoutmasters.

Assistant Scoutmasters, it seemed, were to look elsewhere for Scouting wisdom.

That’s about to change. Later this year, the two-volume Troop Leader Guidebook will debut, replacing the Scoutmaster Handbook and offering helpful checklists, quick tips and fresh ideas for both new troop leaders and veteran Scouters.

Scouting magazine contributor Mark Ray wrote Volume 1, while Bob Birkby, author of the latest Boy Scout Handbook, penned Volume 2.

You can see the covers of the new Troop Leader Guidebooks after the jump. I’ve also got a sneak peek at what’s inside the books and what makes them better tools for Scoutmasters and assistant Scoutmasters. 

Vol. 1: For new troop leaders

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Mark Ray’s Vol. 1 focuses primarily on the needs of the new or relatively inexperienced Boy Scout leader.

These Scouters will have been volunteers for up to three years, are likely assistant Scoutmasters and probably recently crossed over from serving as a Webelos leader or parent.

As such, Volume 1 assumes little or no prior knowledge of the Boy Scout program on the part of the reader. It presents a somewhat simplified picture of Boy Scouting that focuses on the short term — getting through this week’s troop meeting, this month’s outing and this year’s planning conference — rather than the long term, such as planning for growth, establishing a troop vision, and measuring personal and troop success.

In other words, it leaves advanced topics to Volume 2.

Given that its readers are mostly newcomers, this volume’s tone is similar to that used in a book for new parents. It reassures readers that everything is really going to be okay. Really.

Vol. 2: Advanced guidance for veteran Scouters

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Bob Birkby’s Volume 2 assumes its readers are ready for the next level.

Here you’ll find info like high-adventure planning, working with Scouts with disabilities, conflict resolution, visioning and more.

This volume is for more-seasoned leaders who need fresh ideas. It’s an advanced guidebook that will help leaders take their troop’s program and operations to a higher level. It will also help leaders keep an established program fresh and exciting so that troops don’t fall into the trap of doing the same things year after year.

Look at it this way: Volume 1 replaces the current Scoutmaster Handbook, while Volume 2 offers advanced guidance that’s been missing from several editions of the Scoutmaster Handbook.

Behind the scenes

“By the way,” Mark tells me, “we changed the name because surveys indicated that many assistant Scoutmasters thought the Scoutmaster Handbook wasn’t for them!”

But more than just a new name, the Troop Leader Guidebook represents a new approach to serving all troop leaders. And it happened, as it should, with the input of Scouters like you.

“We held focus groups in the spring of 2012 in the D.C. area (Northeast and Southern Regions), the St. Louis area (Central Region), and the Bay Area (Western Region) to get input on the current handbook and what Scouters wanted to see in the new handbooks,” Mark says.


      • Please remember (or remind the appropriate folks) that not everyone has an iPhone or iPad, but every platform can read PDF files.

      • These publications cost money to produce whether they’re eventually published digitally or on paper. Even if they’re handed out online like some other guides, the money comes from somewhere.

        • BSA national needs to redefine how they do business if this is a criteria. What are the sales numbers? Has 1 in 20 SMs bought one ? Has 1 in 50 ASMs bought one? Every SM, ASM, etc should have one and have it easily available. As such, it needs to be effectively free or part of registration in The BSA publishing model needs to change to get info and training materials into the hands of it’s “VOLUNTEERS” without targeting a profit. BSA needs to stop printing thousands of paper copies that go unsold or wasted. Partner with Kinkos or FedEx to print on-demand for those who want a paper copy.

    • Well we needed a new updated SM manual but lets hope the cost is not real high. Many of my scouters are out of work and we have to share it. The cover look great.

  1. Oh man, I always loved the “Scoutmaster Handbook”. 🙁

    I never felt it wasn’t for me even though I was only an ASM.

    • From what I see, this will be everything you love about the Scoutmaster Handbook, only more of it and better organized by audience (new leaders and experienced ones).

    • Never “ONLY” ASM! The Troop can’t make it without trained and active Scouters in the ASM role-or no Troop I’ve seen can.

  2. I hope that the subliminal message of the Volume 1 cover photo is “Take the plunge – you won’t drown” rather than “Abandon ship!” Good choice in putting the figure in the Volume 2 cover photo in silhouette — it could be a man or a woman, young or old, any race or ethnicity.

    • Seriously, I look forward to seeing these. I always thought the Scoutmaster Handbook was way too textbook-like, to the point of being intimidating to a new leader, and not nearly concrete enough. What I always wished for as a troop leader was a set of checklists and timelines covering every common aspect of troop operations. I think one of Boy Scouting’s biggest challenges is the vast range of skill, ability, and time in our volunteer leaders, which creates wide differences in program quality among different troops, and within the same troop over time as leaders change. Anything we can do to to make it easier for troop leaders to ‘learn to drive’ the Boy Scouting program is a step toward raising program quality.

      • The idea of Leader Specific Training is to introduce new leaders to the handbook so they could then use it as a reference.

  3. I have Scoutmaster Handbooks from the WW II era and before that were two volume. And they had a lot more text than these did.

  4. All of the adults who manage Scouting groups are in the same “boat” – including the parents. Any platform that gets useful management information to leaders is a good one. I hope that the new “Troop Leader Guidebooks” will be successful. We’ll always have our old “Scoutmaster Handbooks” for solid historical reference!

    • Based on above definition of Scouter, then the suggestion should be “Troop Adult Leader Handbook”. BTW, the Senior Patrol Leader Handbook is also used by ASPLs. At the end, all SMs and ASMs are also Scoutmasters. I think the book will always the “Scoutmasters Handbook”. The name is not important, the content and our use are the important things. Bring the books. 🙂

  5. OK, why am I the only one going “yes it needed an update, but c’mon, there’s really one ASM someplace who thought they couldn’t use this?” for that matter, is there ANY manual for adults omeone else can’t use?

  6. It is important to be engaged in this digital revolution we are in the midst of. Programs like Cubtracker and Scoutmode are embracing this and will be successful in the end because they are looking at how leaders want to use the tools today. While nothing will ever replace the feel of reading a book, reference material such as this will be important to have at a moments notice. Ideally we see this as an app or at the very least in PDF format. Please embrace the revolution and help the tech savvy to better serve our Troop.

    • You can flip to the index and then to a page in a binder as fast as you can look anything up on your phone. Motion and progress are not the same. A PDF is convenient, but that’s it: it’s just a convenience.

      • Books are a whole lot bulkier and heavier than apps or PDF’s, and our smart phone or tablet is right there in our pocket or backpack.

        • Also – I don’t mind paying for the material. It is worth it!

        • Apps are not fail safe. Your book is only as good as your batteries. All of my leaders will take the tangible material over electronic any day.

        • Beat me to it. Apps are great as long as you have your phone or tablet with you and your battery is charged. And one’s eyes can tire much faster reading a screen than a book. Especially those little phone screens. It’s also much easier to break a phone or tablet than it is a book and while water is a friend to neither, it is a much greater demon to an electronic device. As in most cases where durability is concerned, low-tech, as much as one may hate to admit it, is often the overall superior option.

          Best publishing option, offer both bound and electronic options in a way that you pay once for both so I can have the best of both worlds.

  7. I’m really sorry that I didn’t hear about the focus groups, because I had lots of ideas about problems with the Scoutmaster Handbook and ways it could be better.

    National really needs to get the word out earlier.

  8. I have most of the Scout Handbooks going back to the thirties. I love the art work in
    the old ones. I look forward to checking out the new TLG so I can add it to my collection. Bring it on!

  9. I think it’s time to drop the physical books and have a wiki that is dynamic and updateable. It wouldn’t be difficult for those without internet/skills to get printed copies made available – and I’d be pretty surprised to find an entire unit with no one with access.

    For those asking about LST Level I and II – it exists already. Level I is the LST course, and Level II is Roundtable (Woodbadge, other supplemental trainings)

    • The purpose of a book is to bring it to the field. The woods is no place for a Kindle or iPod, iPad , iPed , iPid or iPud.

      • My phone goes backpacking with me (usually on airplane mode since I don’t need signal and want to preserve battery) because it is my alarm clock, camera, etc. I also have an app which lists all rank and merit badge requirements so I can look up exact requirements that we may be working on without the bulk of handbooks or merit badge pamphlets.

        I would much sooner pack my kindle with something like this loaded on it than I would the actual paper manual!

  10. Why two volumes? Just make one large book that covers everything. Why make Scouters buy two books? A majority of us will buy both, so why not just make them into a single book so it’s cheaper?

    I have never understood why the program features book is in three volumes. Does anyone out there only have one or two volumes? I bet a vast majority of everyone has all three. Just make one book so it’s cheaper.

    • I don’t know for sure, but from the descriptions above, I would imagine that having 2 volumes makes it easier for a more experienced leader to pass on the first one to a new leader (or even several new leaders) while he is still using the second volume for reference.

      • Perhaps in theory, but I think the reality of the situation is that a vast majority of Scouters will purchase, keep, and use both books.

    • Very late in the game. Reason why the Troop Program Features is divided into 3 books is because folks wanted it that way. Originally it was a book called WOODS WISDOM and was approx. $50-$60 and was in a 5 inch binder. People complained, so they split WOODS WISDOM into 4 books: Troop Program Features Vols. 1,2,3 and the Troop Resources Book.

    what was old is now new again (1945-ish SM Handbook came in 2 Volumes)
    Imitation —Flattery…….
    Scouting has way to much literature and too few Scoutmaster (of the right sort)
    Modern Scouting (BP scouting at al) has currently been highjacked by the wekll meaning but misguided.
    Scoutmasters and Commissioners take back your turf

    • Your right. I have that set. I have a collection of old scout books and Guide books. I really love the old field book from 1967, I have purchased several copies of it off ebay to give others so they can have something that puts OUTING in Scouting.

      • I like the old Fieldbook, too, but it should NOT be used now. It has suggestions that are dangerous, like the snakebite first aid and the advice to only drink a little water while hiking.

        On the other hand, a page-by-page update of that book would probably be better than the current Fieldbook.

        • True, sorta, it does also say to shower once a week.. haha. But still, there are a lot of good ideas in there, like making tent stakes out of sticks, setting up a tent with a broken pole. If they did a page by page update it would be terrible. the would go in and add a mess of diversity, make everything “sensitive” and just ruin it. They’d probably throw in a few rainbows while they were at it. Look at the new guide, the first 10 pages are advertisements to the high adventure bases. there is very few recipies, very few outdoor tricks, or whatevers.. I love the old book. the cooking in orange peels and eggs with a stick is a HIT with my boys.

  12. Does this mean that Mark Ray has to rename his current book “The Scoutmaster’s Other Handbook” to become: “Even Another Troop Leader Guidebook” 🙂

  13. Any Troop Committee that allowed the scoutmaster to be a dictator is not much of a committee or a scoutmaster. NO scoutmaster alone can properly assist the BOY RUN troop. There are too many duties and responsibilities at the troop level. I hope this new handbook, regardless of how many volumes, does not specify duties to assistants that cause them to be out of the direct line of authority to the scoutmaster. I fear, however, even without having the book, that national is causing a rift in the troop. January 1 is a few months away.

  14. I’ve seen plenty of long-time Scouters who don’t know anything about “getting through this week’s troop meeting, this month’s outing and this year’s planning conference” so I’m glad that the covers of these books don’t say “beginners” or “advanced” on them; I would hope the insides don’t say so, either. Longevity is longevity, nothing more.

  15. That’s terrific news. Like many, I assumed the SM Handbook was soley for SMs, so never looked inside. As an ASM the past 5 years (OMG has it been that long already?), I could really use a reference book or two.
    These will compliment my first Wood Badge training that I start in 10 days!
    Thanks for the news.

    • For those ASMs (and SMs) who never read the soon-to-be-obsolete Scoutmaster’s Handbook, I recommend reading the SPL handbook instead. It is one of the best written and most useful publications from the BSA and covers a number of things that the Scoutmaster’s Handbook misses.

      And of course, you’ve already given your SPL an SPL Handbook, right?

  16. I just hope they make these in a smaller size, unlike the last edition.. PDF would be perfect.. and i hope they put back in the outing in scouting part..

  17. Could we get a look at either the Table of Contents or the Index as a better tease of what to expect?

    Will the new book come in line with the updated Troop Planning Resources (Program Planning)?

    What “major” changes can we expect?

  18. Bryan, any word on when training materials will be updated? I train SM Specific and have been supplementing with my own materials. I would love to have an updated training manual from National.

  19. A long time ago, before everyone was uber sensitive – the Scoutmaster handbook gave you suggestions to help boys with things that were happening to their body and to their mind in the period of puberty. It had very helpful information in it as to explaining to boys that no matter what they were feeling, it was perfectly normal.

    Today, the PC want to make it so no one tells a boy that the thoughts he has is normal and that the Troop is a family that they can use to help them get through the process.

    Our boys are failing school and committing suicide. We need to change so that we can foster change in society.

    • Yes. It even touched on the personal things in the boys book as well until the late 70’s. Its sad to see them take so much out of the book. They used to have a lot more about flag etiquette as well. It had side stories about being proud to be a scout. Now it’s all nonsense. It even used to youth on personal hygiene. Such as showering and trimming your toenails. Now that’s taboo because talking about showering is just soooooooow sexual right?

  20. Two Volumes… that’s going to be interesting. What will it cover? I mean will show more of the up to date Youth Protection, plans in it or could have some Travel Plans, or even more ideas on for recipie planning for units with e.g. alergies to nuts, gluten, or even diabetic, and seizure disorders.

    The scouts, and leaders are out there with these plus hundreds of other ailments, and disabilities, we just need a refresher to remind us of what is going on around us.

    I also hope that you get more into more links so we can find councils and summer camps, and High Adventure Camps.

  21. Do any of these 2 volumes tell scout leaders about establishing a relationship with and utilizing one of the greatest resources they have? Namely their unit commissioner!

  22. My question is why did they get input from only three cities? Two of these are the most politically correct of the entire country. What the heck happened to the rest of us. It seems like Scouts is going to be just another politically Correct group that will slowly die out., just like Girl Scouts is slowly dying out. Too bad it was such a good organization. My time in the organization is now going to be phased out as the once stalwart organization it once was is just another youth program with no difference between them and any other camping club.

    • I also question why the need for 2 books, unless it is a marketing gimmick to raise money, for the complete info you need to buy both. I hope for the sake of the program there are no PC changes coming.

      The existing book could have stayed the same, with the same title but underneath the title It could have said “For Scoutmasters, Asst. Scoutmasters and other Troop Leaders” then just add a couple of chapters for the additional information.

      I hope we aren’t reinventing the wheel, and revisiting 1972….we don’t have a Bill HIllcourt these days.

  23. Hmmm… Maybe keep the Scoutmasters Handbook and another for Troop Leaders instead of 2 volumes… The Scoutmasters Handbook is a time honored resource that served Scoutmasters well.

  24. Wait, did I read this right ““By the way,” Mark tells me, “we changed the name because surveys indicated that many assistant Scoutmasters thought the Scoutmaster Handbook wasn’t for them!”

    When i was a patrol leader I would read the Scout Masters handbook for ideas and to gain knowledge. Am I to seriously believe that Assistant Scoutmasters thought they couldn’t read the book or that it wasn’t for them? I wonder if the same people never picked up the Scouts Handbook to read it? I am so grateful for my scouting past and how it has helped shaped me as a man, but i am concerned with the direction and pressure that Scouting is getting to be more and more mainstream and less adherence to the basic principals of scouting.

  25. Bryan … only 18 more days left in this year. Seems they’re cutting this publishing “later this year” kind of close. They still going to get it out? Would have made a great x-mas present.

  26. BSA originally said this would be available some months ago, then ‘later this year’ (2013). Now they’re totally mum. It would be nice to know both the reason for the substantial delay and an estimate of the first new leader guidebook in 15 years.

  27. The fact that national supply has an overabundance of the old SM hand books has anything to do with the fact that they didn’t release it as promised as they have had the old print “on sale” for 6 months? Everyone knows the new is coming, the old is good for making camp fires by now and delaying the new ones is not serving the scouts.

    • Shrek, I hope you will be correct in anticipating that it’s the old SM handbook, and not the new ones, that will be suitable for campfires. I share your cynicism: It is not rational to keep the soon-to-be-obsolete SM handbooks on the Scout Shops’ shelves, unless they are heavily discounted.

  28. Bryan – seems like we’re due for an update. Please check with Mark and Robert, and see if the new handbooks will be published soon.


    • Bryan, This blog is now really dated. I’d like to know why BSA has quietly delayed this new handbook, and is silent on when it will be released. Makes me think they’ve decided to wait until 2015 when the next program/advancement updates are due.

  29. Bryan, is something going on with the folks that design or write the literature for Scouting? First the new program features never materialized, and then this new handbook quietly drops off the radar. I hope they aren’t delayed because of the 2016 changes to Boy Scouting, since those changes don’t seem to affect the material aspects of the program.

  30. I am concerned about the separation of scoutmaster knowledge into material for novices and for veterans. Of course, I haven’t read the new volumes yet (and these horses have already bolted from the barn), but in my current Scouting roles of parent, leader, and trainer, I have all too often seen veterans dismiss Scouting’s aims and methods (and even Scouting’s rules), for all the reasons you can imagine. I have also been fortunate enough to see a few veterans who will say, I should go back to the basic materials, because I may learn something that will benefit the youth whom I lead. All veterans need to refresh themselves on the basics–we owe that to our youth and to the Scouting Movement–and it is not helpful to have separated the basics from the whole body of knowledge that servant-leaders need for successful Scoutmastering.

  31. Any clue as to when these are actually going to be available? Been waiting impatiently for the release so I can update my training library.

  32. From a comment above….

    “I also question why the need for 2 books, unless it is a marketing gimmick to raise money, for the complete info you need to buy both….

    I hope we aren’t reinventing the wheel, and revisiting 1972….we don’t have a Bill HIllcourt these days.”

    Note that a Green Bar Bill-authored (late 1930s – early 1940s) version of the SM handbook was a two volume publication. There is much to know…it’s good to see that a rich resource is being developed. As a published author, I can empathize with Mr. Ray and Mr. Birkby; delays are inevitable, and no one enjoys experiencing them.

    • Is there a link to a public PDF of Hillcourt’s two-volume SM handbook? Do you know whether Green Bar Bill divided that handbook because of the volume of information or because he separated SM knowledge into what he considered to be basic and advanced topics? My concern is that there are adult leaders who cast aside the foundation of Scouting–our mission, vision, aims, methods, and values–as “fluff,” as I once heard an SMLST course director call it. We aren’t doing ourselves any favors by stranding the basics (which should be woven into everything we do) in a separate volume that could well be ignored by leaders who want to focus on “how Scouting really works” (which typically means bending the program to focus on activities and push boys, deserving or not, through advancement).

  33. Is there ANY way to beg the folks to reconsider their decision to delay publishing Vol. I for another six months? If it’s ready, please, let us use it!

  34. If it is for troop leaders, why couldn’t a youth use the book? Some of our SPL’s are quite capable, although a lot of them would want it in an alternate media than a book. Wouldn’t it be cool, if we were all working off the same page?

  35. Our SPL read the Scoutmaster’s handbook, and he then asked the entire PLC to read it. It is fun when the Scouts have all read the book, and only a small percentage of Leaders have. 🙂

  36. First, ‘Troop Leader Guidebook’ instanly made me think of a (youth) Patrol leader. Secondly, why are we assuming that ‘new’ leaders don’t have to deal with special needs scouts until they are more ‘advanced’and the information to help them with that is in the 2nd volume with the ‘advanced’ information? I am our council’s advancement chairman and get calls all the time from ‘new’ leaders on how to handle advancement, inclusion, etc for their special needs scouts.

  37. Like every book written on Scouting these new SM/ASM books will still have the same major problem. You have to read them and do your best to implement the contents. Otherwise all you have is another book on the shelf. I say this as a Scout Leader trainer for forty years.

    • Karl – I called Nation Supply and was told the Vol 1 was delayed until February, and the Vol 2 until April or May. I do not understand teh holdup. Hope this doesn’t happen with the Cub materials. 🙁

  38. Please not more delays … I get that some of these people are volunteers, but the whole game of over-promising and under-delivering seems counterintuitive to how scouting should work. I’m a scout leader in an international location. I get one trip home a year and was hoping to pick up everything … the New leader guides, the program features, etc. Instead of getting a few things, I get nothing. Frustrated.

  39. Are we just waiting for all the copies of the Scoutmaster Handbook to sell out, before we get the new material? The handbook is still available at

    BSA, give us your new guide with the latest info now, please.

  40. New Troop Leader Specific Training Syllabus was posted at in December and references the new Troop Leader Guidebook. How do we present the new training without the new material?

  41. BSA is losing face with the constant delays. We have been waiting a year for the materials, come on guys, publish it already. Program features are trickling out … Let’s get the program updated, relevant and going again!

  42. Here we go again. It must be something in the water, because for 100 years everyone who has served as a Troop leader has been able to understand that the SM handbook was for the SA’s also. Not only that but we have the internet to obtain additional info. to help do our jobs. Come on, are we really that st__dumb? I know, BSA needs the $$$.
    An Old Scouter

  43. As of Feb 2 >> NO BOOKS AVAILABLE !!
    As a member of the Volunteer Training Staff for Our Council, this is so upsetting that we make these professions of ‘Teach the New Program’ but have no plan to truly execute these ideals.
    Stop making unrealistic expectations!!

  44. Also wondering if there are any dates for this release. I was teaching the Scoutmaster Leader Specific Training and all throughout the training material it references the Troop Leader Guidebook, that nobody has. Thank you.

  45. It is not on Scout Stuff or at the National Scout Shop as I am teaching the class tomorrow and have the same issue. Difficult to teach a course that references using those two volumes when they aren’t published yet. However, we will make do and do our best. Please get this out soon – thanks!

  46. I too was wondering about the release date. I just stopped by the Scout Shop and they said they haven’t seen them yet.

    • What’s awesome about it, is that even the new scoutmaster leader specific training references this new guidebook that no one had ever seen. So i guess the cart really did come before the horse.

  47. Just nudging this thread. Maybe a new post with the latest status is in order. I know a lot of folks are anxiously waiting for these…..

  48. Yeah, way to kill your sales of the current Scoutmaster Handbook! Why would I buy that when you keep promising to make it out-of-date?

  49. I have been following this blog for almost 2 years……and I feel everyone’s pain. As a trainer of CS leader specifics, BS leader specifics and OLS……..the early notifications of revisions do cause me to ask….”what do you want me to do?” until this is available. I love the new hands-on method of BS specific training, but find it frustrating that I don’t have all of the parts. As we know from WB training…..change is a two sided coin…..most don’t like it and it is better implemented when properly communicated (led through). I simply ask…..”what does National want us to do until we have all of the parts?”. I understand that implementing these new changes has more complexities than we all might realize, but in the meantime…….we need some guidance. Do we continue using the “old” method until you are ready to roll this out? For example, I was asked yesterday if they should hold off on CS specific training until we get the new materials? I said absolutely not! These new leaders need training today. The new CS program is not materially changing the “leader’s job”……the changes are more focused on the scouts and the advancement side of things. It is much better to get them started, then loop back and update them on the changes. Our job as trainers (and Scouters) is to teach them to bring the Scouting program to their scouts. Scouting is going through some really exciting changes right now……….we just need a little more top down guidance as we move through those changes, so we can be positive leaders of those changes. Communication and feedback are gifts we need today.
    Lastly, my personal focus right now is on the 25% or more (depending on your Council dashboard) that have not read or been trained on “any” version of the SM Handbook…..that is a bigger concern to me…….

  50. So, is there any date in sight for the new … whatever they are calling the Scoutmaster Handbook? I have the same issue with training in my council and we do SM/ASM training at our summer camp. I have the new training materials and homemade PowerPoint, but need the books. I’m in West Texas and the Buffalo Trail Scout Ranch. We have 500-600 kids a week from all over Texas and the SW USA. I guess if all else fails, I have the covers I can show. This makes the program look bad.

    • I feel your pain. I taught the new SM/ASM program in February and had the participants use the old SM book. We got through it but they got a few answers wrong. Example would list the types of patrols? The answer one would get from the old SM book that would be Regular, New-Scout and Venture. However, the new Troop Leader Guide book would produce the desired answer of four patrols which are New-Scout, Traditional, Older-Scout and National Honor. My point being as long as the individual that leads the class is up front about the challenge then the training can be done. It actually likes for a more lively discussion. Please don’t get me wrong as I too am patiently awaiting the new books.

  51. In our council, we’re teaching Scoutmaster Specific as a blend of the old and new until we get the new guidebooks. The fundamentals of the training are the same. At summer camp, we teach the course over two mornings.

    Now that the Cub Scout materials are out, is there an updated publishing plan for the Troop Leader Guidebooks?

    • Bob:

      As of April 23, this is what National Supply told me. Please do not shoot the messanger… 🙂

      Volume 1 (616729) 6/22/2015
      Volume 2 (616835) 12/1/2015

      I just call the 800#

    • I’ve been told by a national shop that Vol 1 will be out August 2015 and Vol 2 in December 2015. I know the SM training materials that came out in Dec 2014 sore need the support materials. We are teaching it each week at our summer camp. Come on guys, this makes us look bad.

  52. As of today, not available at scout shop and they have no idea when one might be available. Typical BSA SOP. its here – but not really.

      • It is so frustrating. There are thousands of copies in teh warehpouse, but it seems that National Shops are having a problem ordering that the local council shops do not. Not fair!

  53. The Cub Scout Leader Handbook was for all leader, and also Cubmasters, Committee members etc. I have never understood how a volunteer serving as an Assistant Scoutmaster would think he/she had no use for the Scoutmaster Handbook. Wouldn’t every Scoutmaster be considered a Scoutmaster, Assistant or not? All Committee members are simply Committee members. No special training that makes the Outdoor Chair certified as “trained” for Outdoor Chairing. All Scoutmasters take Scoutmaster Specific….. no “Assistant Scoutmaster” stand-alone training is offered. The difference? What makes the Scoutmaster THE Scoutmaster is simply the willingness to work at the top of Youth Leadership, represent Youth PLC decisions at Committee Meetings, and be the “go to” for Health & Safety concerns. Of course, lets not forget that THE Scoutmaster gets to speak with angry or upset parents, resolve conflict between both adults and youth members.

  54. It’s January 2016 and I can not find any information about how to obtain the Troop Leader Guidebook Volume II. Am I just not looking hard enough?

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