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Open for debate: What’s your Scout unit’s uniform policy?

Ask 90 different Scouters for their unit’s uniform policy, and you’ll get 90 different answers.

Sure enough, that was the case a couple of weeks ago when I polled Scouting‘s Facebook fans on the subject and got 90 responses.

The Boy Scouts of America Insignia Guide says it’s your responsibility as an adult leader to “promote the wearing of the correct complete uniform on all suitable occasions.”

But what constitutes a “suitable occasion”? And what exactly is considered a “correct complete uniform”?

Here’s what you had to say on the subject:

Get your priorities straight
“Would you rather they learn how to be good men (including, I believe, that a Scout is thrifty) or how to be good dressers? Not that the two have to be mutually exclusive, but flexibility among the troops as to the required uniform should be informed by the national organization as far as is possible and then practicality should be the guide.”
- Jen S.

Encourage recycling
“Field uniform is a must all the way down to the socks; no other pants are acceptable. Old or new pants are acceptable, so we have an exchange program in the troop to help cut down the cost of uniforms.”
- Jerry C.

Do your best
“Our Patrol Leaders Council decides what the uniform is, and currently they allow jeans but encourage Scout pants/shorts. We are an inner-city troop, and some of our boys can’t afford the uniform shirt much less the pants. We help them with buy/find/earn the shirt (top priority) and do not focus on the pants so much.”
- Tim B.

Uniforms should be uniform
“I’m going to work on improving our Scout uniform requirements ’cause the uniform is an important part of the program. Try telling your football or soccer coach that you aren’t wearing the team uniform and see what their response will be.”
- Ellie L.

Put the program first
“While jeans typically shouldn’t be a part of the uniform, and are absolutely inappropriate for an Eagle Court of Honor, we have Scouts who cannot afford the regulation pants. It is far more important for the guys to learn and to be a part of a group than to expect a single unemployed parent who receives no child support to purchase said item.”
- Nancy M.

Pay your way
“Cost is a lame excuse, ’cause you hear years later, ‘Oh, we still can’t afford them!’ What about a Scout paying his own way? The uniform is a part of Scouting, and it’s not like buying a house. Mow a lawn or two and earn them!”
- Steve T.

A time and a place
“Seems to vary with ours. Big events like a parade call for full uniform except for footwear (but it has to be shoes, sneakers). Otherwise we allow jeans generally.”
- Frank D.

Show some pride
“The uniform in one of the most important parts of Scouting; it sets us apart from the group of boys on the corner. When the public sees a Scout in full uniform, they give the boy a little more respect and in some places are not afraid of the youth. Lord Baden-Powell would be rolling over in his grave if he saw a Scout in jeans and sneakers.”
- Michael O.

Free from exclusion
“I totally agree with Nancy. While you can ‘require’ pants (NYLT does for their program) there remains that portion of kids who, for whatever reason, can’t afford pants and socks. To exclude anyone like that would be a really bad idea.”
- Joel H.

Little to interpret
“Full uniform is pretty specific … not sure why there are so many units that do not use it. I cringed when I saw a picture of a Scout leader in jeans while his senior patrol leader was in full uniform presenting a wreath at a Memorial Day ceremony.”
- Ron B.

Where do you fall on the subject? Leave your thoughts as a comment here.

94 thoughts on “Open for debate: What’s your Scout unit’s uniform policy?

  1. For all those Cub Scout Parents who can’t afford pants for their kid.
    Check out Scoutstuff, they have the standard blue uniform pants in a number of sizes for $5!!
    If I had a boy in cubs, I would buy a couple of these in different sizes so he won’t grow out of them.
    After he crosses over, donate them to a local uniform bank.
    Not so long ago, the older Boy Scout uniform as well as the Venturing Uniform were similarly discounted.
    I myself picked up a new Venturing shirt (old style) for $4.98.
    My youngest Son’s uniform cost me $12 total. Ebay and thrift shop, plus a few items donated by friends.
    Oppertunities like this are out there if you look for them. To many say “I don’t have time” and then use the cost excuse to not buy the uniform. Make time, and check out local uniform banks, thrift shops, eBay, ask neighbors who’s kid is not in scouts anymore for their uniform.
    There are a lot of options. Just do it!
    If innercity boys from single parent homes can raise money to buy uniforms, Johny in the Suburbs can.
    Where there is a will, there is a way. It is were your priorities are.

  2. While I don’t disagree that there are options out there for lower cost, experienced uniforms, please keep in mind that not all parents have access to things like ebay and even Scoutstuff. The school our pack is based in is largely ELL, and we have many parents who don’t even speak English. My point is that every situation is different. Yes, I agree that the uniform is important and for my family it was a priority and I made sure my son has his units’ required belt up and I even added the socks. But it was still difficult for us. My husband and I each work 2 jobs and he is a full time college student, so I know about financial strain. I just don’t feel it’s fair to say the expense of the uniform is a lame excuse when right now hard times are a reality for many of us, especially for Cub Scouts where earning anything for themselves isn’t a real option.

  3. Cost is an issue, but as the saying goes, “you put your money where your heart is”. Our family is very active – Dad, Mom, 3 1/2 sons. All wear the full uniform – it is a matter of pride among our boys. Our 4 year old is to the point he won’t go to a Scouting event with us unless he wears his brother’s old uniform. With our full schedule, we probably wear the uniform 3 – 5 times a week. Our sons used to balk at always wearing it, but now, lead the charge with other youth to wear it with pride and wear it correctly. I’ve seen Scouts of all ages act differently in uniform than when not. it is also important for leaders to set the example. If you show up for an event in jeans, guess what your Scouts will think is OK. We have a small Troop, but in our recent week at summer camp, other Troop and camp staff made very favorable comments daily about our small group always showing up to meals and programs in uniform. Funny to me that other Scoutmaster complain that their Scouts won’t wear the full uniform while he wears jeans with his shirt hanging out. There are many ways to help offset costs for uniforms – uniform closet, fundraisers, eBay, etc. If there is a desire, there is a way.

  4. The value of a uniform isn’t felt the same way across the country. While I wish that all the boy’s in our pack could have a uniform, unfortunately they can not due to cost. Yes, they could earn the money IF they lived in the subburrbs but we are in a very rural area. Parents in this area do struggle to make ends meet (and I am sure this isn’t the only area). I would rather a boy get the wonderful life lessons afforded by the scout program than worry about the uniform. Our policy is if you can than please do buy the uniform, but if you can not afford a uniform then buy a piece when you can (with a belt up priority and a “class B” t-shirt as the first step). I think the SMM view of, if they don’t get a uniform then they shouldn’t be in the scout program lacks the value of the TRUE program as a whole. If the uniform makes the scout a scout then we haven’t lived up to our own values as scouters, hopefully as the scout progresses he will have learned the values that we as scouters should instill into the boys and he will make all atempts to get a uniform. Not all scouts have the priviledge of having parrents that support them in there quest to be a scout and I will not fault the scout for there parents ability nor will I deny the scout his right to be a scout based on his uniform. I am shocked at the responses that if they don’t have a uniform they shouldn’t be a scout, it is our duty to help instill the values for the scout to want to get a uniform and the boys may not have those values when they first enter the program, it may take a few years for some boys to learn those values Remember this isn’t a “County Club”, but a scouting program for our youth..

    • The policy that states a uniform is not required is made just for the reason(s) you are listing.
      No boy should be turned away due to not being able to afford a uniform. Agreed.
      However, it (the Uniform issue) does not end there. You just don’t say, “since you can not afford to buy a uniform, you don’t have to wear one, ever.” You, the leader, the Scout and his parent(s), make it a goal to get uniformed. You don’t quit. If everyone involved will make this a goal to have the scout uniformed the first year, it can be done where ever you live, what ever your means.
      People keep fixating on the scout shop, and say not all have internet access, or know about uniform banks. As a Leader, make them aware, help them with on-line access. Those leaders who take the easy wayout and just say “Johnny can’t afford it” and write Johnny off, you are cheating the boy of a well rounded program. Step up and do your best to help that boy, don’t cop out and take the easy way out. As for the parents, the bottom line is it is were their priorities are. Yes, there are the dead beat ones who use scouting as a baby sitting service, but don’t give up.
      I had a young man who came from a broken home, raised by a single parent, and on state assistance.
      He raised the money to get his uniform, and I (as his leader) helped by looking for deals to get him uniformed. We got him uniformed head to toe for under $20 (pants included). And this was a big kid who wore a 4X shirt. I have seen this done over and over again, with kids from the same family, innner city kids, rural kids, etc.
      As for those who say it’s not important. You are cheating the kids of a well rounded, complete program.
      The experience of wearing that uniform can be just the thing that kid needs. Who are you to deny him that. Use ALL the methods of scouting. It’s not for you to pick and choose which methods to use.
      Please stop trying to find reasons not to wear the uniform.
      Find reasons to get uniformed. Yes, Scouting is not “a Country Club”, it IS a Uniformed Orginization for our youth. And you are one of the adult leaders who should help instill that in our boys. Right from the start it should be a goal. A goal to be met as soon as possible.
      Again, it is where your priorities are (and his parents).

        • Maybe, calling a specific type of parent Dead Beats is a bit strong for you, but when they have little or no interest in their boy, (the have been charged with abusing him). And they could care less if their son is in scouts (or school for that matter) and most of the time he lives with his Grandma. They use scouts as a ‘Baby Sitting Service” to get rid of their kid for awhile. And then to top it off the Dad shows up drunk at the PW Derby (where he gets physical with his Son because he did not win!). BTW, he was not there for his Son, he was there to meet up with another parent for another reason.
          But on second thought, “Dead Beat” is spot on.
          Sorry for going off topic, sorry for the rant.

          Now, what is wrong using ALL of the methods of scouting for our youth?
          Our Kids deserve the best well rounded program possible.
          Yes, there are exceptions, but exceptions are not the rule.

  5. You know, everyone is talking about the cost of the uniform here, but money isn’t the only issue. I remember a boy in my Cub Scout den who absolutely did not want to wear his uniform. When he did, he threw it on, unbuttoned, over his tee shirt. (And his footwear of choice year-round was invariably flip-flops, even in our harsh Upstate NY winters.) His uniform never had any patches on it – not even the rank badges that he earned! On formal occasions, he would grudgingly button it and put on his neckerchief, but it wouldn’t stay on for long. But you know, this boy LOVED being a Cub Scout. Now I knew this boy pretty well, and I surmised that if I had forced the issue and insisted on his wearing the uniform properly at all times, I probably would have lost him. So I chose to let him be himself. There are *eight* methods used in Cub Scouting, you know… only two of them are the uniform and advancement. This boy cared little for either of those, but does that mean that I can’t reach him and make a difference in his life? I chose to let those things go, and to focus on the other six methods. I think I made the right decision. This is just one example, by the way, I’ve met a number of boys over the years who just don’t respond to one or more of Scouting’s methods. Rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater, we have to look at the whole picture, and treat each boy as an individual. Reach them in any way that you can. If the uniform isn’t working with him, don’t let it become a stumbling block.

  6. If a unit is really dedicated to uniforming, it will find a way that takes care of families who can’t afford the uniform pieces — a used uniform closet; donations; searching e-bay, garage sales, and thrift stores; and using fundraising to acquire uniforms. If a unit wants to make it happen, it has to be a unit initiative.

    The real problem, it seems to me, is that unlike sports teams, and police, and military, and other groups and occupations where uniforms are standard, there is no obvious _practical need_ for Scouts to wear uniforms. There is no real need for the public to be able to easily identify Scouts, or for the public to be able to tell Scouts apart from other groups, or for Scouts to be able to identify each other. Nor do Scout uniforms help Scouts carry out Scout activities. (Check out p. 33 of the Boy Scout Handbook, which tells us to wear the uniform for ceremonies and indoors, but wear other clothing for outdoor activities.) Rather, we ask Scouts to wear uniforms primarily for character-building and other intangible reasons, and as a convenient place to put badges. The closest analogy, it seems to me, is to private school uniforms (which I’ve lived with for 15 years or so). It is understandable that many Scouts, parents, leaders, and units are not particularly impressed by the reasons given for wearing the uniform.

  7. It seems the real answer to any response that includes “our troop uniform policy” is that there is only one policy, set by national, and subunits (troops, districts, councils, etc) are not empowered to modify it. On the other hand, BSA has also said that uniforms, while one of the eight methods of Scouting, are not required to participate in the program.

    This seems to imply that as leaders, we should encourage Scouts to do their best to wear their uniforms (and wear them correctly) through positive reinforcement and setting the example through our own actions. Just as we are supposed to guide and assist our Scouts in planning activities, running meetings and demonstrating leadership, we should do the same to help them be as uniformed as possible. In some cases this may result in every Scout being in uniform from hat to socks. In others, we may be doing well to afford getting every Scout in a shirt. Each troop, and each Scout in it, has its circumstances with which the leaders must contend to help their Scouts do their best.

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  9. I am in the USAF. A uniform is a uniform. My son will be old enough for Tiger Scouts and I will volunteer to lead/help as I can. If nothing else, i hope to convey to the unit the value and importance of not just wearing a uniform, but wearing it properly. I cringe when I see an untucked shirt, with jeans and tennis shoes; especially on an adult leader.

  10. The uniform is a proud part of scouting. Jeans, sweat pants, basketball shorts just don’t cut it with a Scout Shirt for Court of Honor, or other more formal events.

    At least have a policy with Green Kaki pants or shorts when someone can’t afford the higher priced BSA pants or shorts.

  11. Uniforms help keep Boy Scouting a living, breathing youth organization. Scouts and scout leaders are on better behavior when wearing them our troop committee has agreed. As with others, we are concerned about asking too much of the boys who can’t afford as much, however insist upon the uniform shirt, properly tucked in, with neckerchief on, and the olive green uniform pants or anything that looks close enough. When in Class Bs we encourage the boys to wear scout shirts of some kind or plain, solid color shirts. We have never asked them to wear scout hats or other apparel besides the badge sash at ceremonies, however some do.

  12. I have to admit that on one hand, yes, the uniform is expensive, and there are definitely people that can’t afford it, but on the other, it’s not a good excuse. The people that refuse to require it based on price almost always jump to the “growing boy” diminishing returns argument, but it’s a logical fallacy. If scouts buy a uniform and then -poof- they’ve outgrown it so fast as to make them uneconomical, then what you have here is not a lot of trash, but a rotating stock of cheap uniforms. An 11-yr-old joins, gets his uniform, outgrows it, are you telling me everyone throws them away or takes them to Goodwill? No, that’s stupid, they’re an untapped resource sitting in the bottom of closets. Collect them and they go in a uniform exchange/sale or free locker.
    My troop is in a mid-to-upper-middle class neighborhood, it stays between 30-40 scouts, we’ve been around for 48 years. We have a “uniform locker” with free items for anyone that needs them, from uniforms to old boots to old frame packs. I could walk into the QM Store tomorrow and outfit a patrol of 8 boys easily. Some would be in Oscar de la Renta uniforms, some would be in the lightweight switchbacks, some would be in the Centennial uniform, but they would all be in uniform and none of them would be out $120+. Why? It’s not a miracle or a mystery; we don’t have some benefactor dumping money on us. We have a troop of 30 of those ~growing boys~ and they bring their outgrown uniforms in and pass them down.
    This is a no-brainer. It’s one thing for a parent to raise the cost objection before they know about an exchange, but leaders who do so are lazy and unimaginative. Get a $10 footlocker from a store, tell your scouts that they all have uniform articles they’ll never wear again, and that there are boys who could really use the, so you’d like them to drop them off in that footlocker. When a boy ages out or quits, politely ask for the uniform.
    Then, tell your new Scouts that there’s a footlocker full of uniforms just waiting for a new owner. If the free cycle won’t do it in your troop, hold a “yard sale.” While our troop does it free, I know lots of troops that have a few nights a year where scouts can sell their outgrown items. An individual scout or parent can make the cost excuse, but the leadership should have the answer to that excuse rather than promoting it.

    As for people/troops that just don’t want to wear the Boy Scout uniform, fine, don’t be Boy Scouts. Join Campfire USA or YMCA Indian Guides, or just go camping in your spare time. If you don’t want to be a scout, then don’t be.

  13. My position is why do we use cheap Chinese vendors instead of buying american. Why isn’t the uniform more outdoor freindly? I can buy a pair of BSA/Chinese pants that zip off at the knee for $45 an spend another $10 to get them hemmed or I can buy a pair of WOOLRICH “tactical” pants that are hemmed for $40. It was once suggested that the BSA would have to pay the unions to buy American. The latest uniform shirt is better at being outdoor friendly, but why can Academy Sports get a columbia or house brand shirt for the same price or less. Both are better shirts. Are the profits for national supply that important?

  14. While I agree that the “full uniform” means the complete uniform, I do think that jeans (nice ones, no holes) look appropriate with the uniform. Our local Den, of Pack 329 in Phoenix, AZ, has a more detailed question about the uniform, which appears to not fully be answered. Although, some of the comments above mention the neckerchief, no one (even BSA) states specifically how the neckerchief should be worn. I wrote this article about the discussion: http://www.examiner.com/cub-scouts-in-phoenix/cub-scouts-uniform-how-to-wear-the-neckerchief

    I’m sure the discussion will continue to have opinions on both sides, but whenever wearing even a partial uniform, I think everyone would agree that the most important part is that the Scout uniform is highly recognized and Scouts need to wear the uniform with pride and act according to the Scout law when wearing the uniform.

    • Debbie, the BSA does in fact explicitly outline when, when not, and how the neckerchief is worn in the Uniform and Insignia Guide. You can purchase a hard copy online or at your service center, and portions of the guide are available online. The neckerchief is addressed here (near the bottom of the page): http://scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/InsigniaGuide/03.aspx As to your specific question (over or under the collar), the BSA does “specifically state” how it should be worn: The unit decides for itself! Thus, so long as everyone in the unit is wearing it in a manner prescribed by BSA (either over or under) and the same, they’re wearing it properly.

      In fact, for an optional item, and given the murkiness surrounding other uniform items, the guide goes into a surprising amount of detail: It should be folded flat rather than rolled or twirled; the top button is not buttoned when wearing a neckerchief (as you can see in the illustration and official inspection checklist); all members of the troop wear the same color, etc.

      • GGreene840 – Thank you – I found many pages stating the details of how the neckerchief is folded, etc and that each unit may decide on whether to wear them – but I never found the page that you listed above – Thank you. And what helps further is that the Unit is to decide – so I guess I need to inform everyone that we need to make a formal decision. Right now, some boys wear it over the collar and some under.

  15. Whatever pieces of the uniform are worn, they should be worn neatly and proudly. This hanging-shirttail, sloppy-neckerchief thing is absolutely unacceptable. I demand my den get it together on neatness, and I accept no excuses for sloppy uniform wear. If all you have is a uniform shirt, wear it like you were standing before Baden-Powell.

  16. In my troop we require the shirt, handkerchief, a slide , and a belt (any belt) they can wear shorts or pants and have to have closed shoes. the rule is as long as it looks good with the uniform. And in our area we are the best looking troop.

  17. Our Troop is full uniform, top to bottom no if, ans or buts. Class A shirt for formal functions or inspections and a Class B shirt for all other occasions. Families have three months to slowly acquire the uniform. I find it amazing at the comments of families who can’t afford or are we making scouts to be sharp dressers. How many photo’s of a Boy Scout have you seen from the 50′s and 60′s that was not in a full uniform. The uniform is to instill confidence in the boys by not making anyone feel different, in addition it provides a positive recognition from the community. They are not judged by a brand name, they are equal. The uniform is more than a piece of clothing and carries a sense of pride. Something boys today lack is pride in what they do. Society has deemed everything should be easy and free and if it isn’t it, should not be required. Units should be providing ample fundraising opportunities so families can be thrifty and pay for Scout items. But families who need the money seem to be the ones who refuses to participate in the fundraising events.

  18. Simple answer: it is more important to have a Scout present than it is to have a Scout present and in uniform.

  19. We encourage full class A at troop meetings but we don’t make a big deal when a boy wears jeans. We require the full uniform for boards of review. But I keep an extra belt and clean socks in my trunk in case a boy forgets those for his B of R.

  20. As a Scoutmaster, I am pretty flexible on the uniform. Shirt is a must, but I do however except any type of green short or pant…up until first class. At first class, for a scoutmaster conference or a board of review, full official uniform is required. we are a head to toe troop. Which means from socks to a hat! If you have a merit badges, you better have a sash, and wear it for conferences, COH, etc…

  21. Our troop “uniform” is the belt up with all patches placed correctly. As a parent, it is not that I can not afford the scout pants, but that I do not see the value in them. With boys growing as fast as they do between 11 and 18, pants need to be replaced 5 or 6 times to accomodate growth spurts. At $40 a pair, I think there are better ways to spend money when they only wear them one day a week. Especially, when our scout shop was selling denim jeans for $9.99. If the uniform was a good value, more scouts might be wearing it.

  22. Full uniform is encouraged but nobody has ever missed an event because of dress. We have busy families that sometimes come straight from soccer practice. I do believe that leaders always lead by example.

  23. For our weekly meetings, we wear our uniforms. As a leader I wear a complete uniform (save for the socks). The scouts all wear their shirts, and some have proper pants or shorts. I have always bought uniforms for my own children, and have maintained a uniform bank of stuff to loan out to scouts. When we are marching in a parade or having our picture taken at camp, we always stress that scouts need ‘as complete a uniform as they own’ and that they should have olive green shorts if they don’t have uniform shorts.

    As to scouts that come to meetings from other activities without their uniform, I always ask if they went from scouts to baseball, would the coach let them take the field in their scout shirt? When they laugh and say no, I remind them they can bring the scout shirt in the car with them, and change when they arrive.

  24. When I was a Scout, I did yard work and was paid by my neighbors. Later, I worked at the grocery store stocking shelves, etc. I paid for my uniforms. My Mom sewed on my patches. I paid my way to Philmont when we lived in Winter Park, Florida. It was a three day bus ride to Philmont back then. At night we slept in high school school football stadiums in our sleeping bags. We used their locker rooms for showers, etc. I worked all my life and I learned the thrifty ethic as a youngster in Scouting. Kids today are too soft and want to follow the easy road. They need a role model on thrift and many other things taught in the Scout Law and Oath. A good Scoutmaster can be that model. Help sale BSA popcorn or other items to help finance troop expenses. Yes, expect a fully uniformed Boy Scout Troop!

  25. We struggled for years with this issue. We always made it a requirement to be in full class a, with the exception of the chief, during meetings, and campouts. In public the scouts always felt “out of place” or “embarrassed”. A few weeks ago, I contacted a local Marine office, and they came out to teach the boys a few pointers and talk to them about how important their scout uniform is as well as their own uniforms are.

    This talk really triggered something, cause we’ve had 100% on uniforms and attendance since then.

    • Daniel, that is a brilliant idea. I think I’ll mention it to the other den leader – our Cubs show up in their shirts, but no neckerchief, no belt, shirt not tucked in…. My son is the only one who shows up in full uniform (from the belt up, anyway).

      I just got my shirt myself, and I’ll be wearing it to set a good example.

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  27. On the subject of Uniforms. We have a gent that is wearing our Troop Calss B shirt to demonstration/protest rallies. Does anyone now of any and where i can find information about the wearing of Class A and Class B uniforms to such events? There has to be something out there prohibiting this. I think it is completeley tasteless myself.

  28. I agree with most of what is being stated on the blogs on both sides especially dealing with cost as a major factor. I do believe all young people in scouting should have a proper uniform as with any other organization has theirs. rest asure that there are uniforms in your community not being used. on any given day a person can go to any thrift shop, goodwill, salvation army, chuch thrift store, etc.

  29. I’d love to push uniforms for my unit, but until they start making them in the U.S.A again, I just can’t. Pretty much everything in the local scouting shop is made in China, Bangladesh, or Viet Nam. I’ve got no problem with the folks in those countries, but BSA gear should be made in the USA. Until then, class B (t-shirt) is all I recommend to the families that join.

  30. I recently when through the OA ceremony as an adult leader. I was surprised to see only 1 in 5 of the OA candidates in full BSA prescribed uniform. I was further surprised to see less than 50% of the OA staff in proper uniform. Dress ranged from running shorts to hunting and fishing hats. (Now remember, this is the Order of the Arrow, considered the “honor society” of Boy Scouts). Why? The uniform is prescribed by the Boy Scouts of America. It is designed to build character, respect, and public visibility for scouting. It’s not optional. Compromise on the uniform and you compromise on respect for scouting and in the same way pass on that disrespect to your son.

    The same scouts and adult leaders at my Order of the Arrow weekend, hundreds strong, stood around the raising of the American flag Saturday morning. We were in work cloths ready for a day of service, Sadly, I was one of less than 10 who removed their hats for the ceremony. In some way, respect and honor for scouting and the scout uniform, seems to impact respect other areas of life as well.

    In summary, stop bellyaching about whether or not you like the uniform, wear it for what it represents and instill the same pride and respect in you son. It will will make him a better scout and a better American citizen.

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