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01/12/2010

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Jason Pettis

So are these "just for fun" or can they count towards rank advancement?

Watchoverya

Sorry to see us looking backwards when we need to be looking forwards.

Ken K

Wow How cool is that!

Martha

That seems to be the question - Will they be able to use them towards Rank Advancement or just for fun Merit Badges?

Kahl Edwards

Will a merit badge counselor have to sign up in order to teach any of these merit badges? I think that this is neat for the boys to be able to do. Also, it will fun and interesting for the counselors. Will there be available merit badge handbooks for these?

Thanks.

Kahl Edwards

CARL MELVIN BENNETT

Neat! I went back and looked at my 'ole' Merit Badge Sash for my Eagle Scout Award of 1949. Yes, I earned Carpentry and Pathfinding Merit Badges. Thanks for the memory!
Yours In Service,
Carl Melvin Bennett
MC HNES Pack 0327
Council 773

CARL MELVIN BENNETT

p.s. I have JPEG scans, Part A and B, of my 'Ole' Merit Badge sash for my Eagle Scout Award Silver Palm 1951. If you would like a copy, how would I send them to you?
YIS,
Carl
NESA Life Member
CMB Merit Badge Sash 1952 A.jpeg
CMB Merit Badge Sash 1952 B.jpeg

Jason Pettis

I saw via twitter that the badges will count towards advancement!

http://twitter.com/cbblog/status/7722364431

Very very cool. Now we just need the requirements.

Mike Kost

How do you qualify to be a counselor?

CARL MELVIN BENNETT

Note: I find no Tracking MB in my 1914, 1927, 1940; 1948 BSA Handbooks. I do find a Stalking MB in my 1914, 1927; 1940 BSA Handbooks, but not in my 1948 BSA Handbook.
There is a Second Class Tracking Requirement (page 138) in my 1940 BSA Handbook. I find only a Chapter 13 "TRACKING AND STALKING" (page 245) in my 1948 BSA Handbook. Hope this is useful history. CMB, Eagle Scout 1949.
p.s. I have twelve relevant JPEG scans from the above BSA Handbooks if anyone desires them. Just email me.

Erika

Just wondering: are these badges only for boy scouts or for cubs as well?

John

Great to see us celebrating the great foundations of Scouting, not just trying to ride the latest whim.

Scouting Magazine

To answer some questions...

These will count as the elective merit badges needed for rank advancement.

No word on merit badge counselors yet, but presumably you'll need a registered BSA counselor like you do for other merit badges.

These merit badges are only for Boy Scouts, but Cub Scouts would still enjoy age-appropriate activities in these subject areas.

MBrown

Tracking was originally called Stalker, then Stalking. Am sure the BSA desided to re-name it for PC reasons.

Merit Badges are only for Boy Scouts, so, no, Cub Scouts can't earn them.

CARL MELVIN BENNETT

Hi MBROWN. I can not find a Stalker MB in my 1911, 1914, 1927, 1940, or 1948 BSA Handbook. My 1911 BSA Handbook shows a Stalking MB on page 42. Do you have a reference to a Stalker MB? I concur with the PC comment. As a Scout in the 1940's it was a complement to be called a gay stalker. That seems not to be so now.
YIS,
Carl

C Glahn

I would think that all of these skills are appropriate in some ways. Certainly carpentry is a useful skill. Pathfinding sounds like orienteering. Tracking is a skill that is like an investigator, but in the forest. It should empasize awareness of our surroundings and that sounds good to me. Signaling is a lost art, but is it can be critical if the infrastructure breaks down (be prepared). I would like to see some signing for the deaf, for example

Kerry

Awesome opportunity, I hope I can intrigue some of my scouts to try for these. Teaching them the traits of days gone by would hopefully help them to relate to the history of Scouting. And then have something few other scouts have or can attain. I hope they bring back other retired patches on a limited time sensitive basis.

CARL MELVIN BENNETT

Useful References: The 1981 BSA Handbook shows "Sign Language for the Hearing -Impaired" on page 352. "Signing" of the Scout Laws is shown on page 353; and "Touch", (the braille system) is shown on page 355. The 1990 BSA Handbook also shows 'signing' on pages 448-449, and Braille on page 450. I do not find these in the 1998 BSA Handbook.
There also may be some 'Signing' and 'Braille' materials in 'ole' Cub Scout Books, e.g., some 'ole' Webelos Handbooks.
YIS,
Carl
'Ole' 55 Year Scout Vet

James Chaplin

This is fantastic. But they should also bring back Pigeon Care as one of the historical MBs.

We have an adult leader in our area that earned Pigeon in the 1960's and is still raising and racing pigeons today. I had him put on a presentation at a Camporee, and the scouts loved it.

CARL MELVIN BENNETT

See "Merit Badge Requiremnts", BSA 1979, page 61 for the six requirements for the Pigeon Raising MB.

Tom Jones

Tracking and Stalking after 1952 used to be part of Second Class requirements. It was so so so much fun! We learned the different foot prints of different animals, we learned to look for bent grass and twisted twigs. We learned to do a “silent swim” where you would enter a pool, swim with your clothing on 100 feet, then exit, all the while without a sound. It was like Commando training!

BSA has taken a lot of the "adventure" out of Scouting in its constantly "looking forward". Sometimes kids like to just learn and do things because they are fun. Signaling was hard, but I learned the Morse Code and ended up earning my Amateur Radio license because of that MB. I became a Scout camp counselor because of silent swim - it was fun to teach, fun to do, kids loved it.

I earned Beekeeping, and still keep bees. Schools call me every year to see the hives I keep at my home in Dallas, and I sell 300 pounds of honey a year at $10 per pound! Not a bad return on a silly little MB!

I know the Troop my sons are in now will be doing these MB - even if I have to drag them screaming and clawing back to the 1940's and 1950's!

Sherrie Cantrell

I think that it is really great that they have brought back some of the old Merit Badges, to celebrate "100 Years of Scouting!" But I just read that these are only for the Boy Scouts to earn. Do you have any for the Cub Scouts to earn? I am in charge of our areas Cub Scout Day Camp (my first time) this year and I thought that it would be great for the boys to do some of the old Scout things. We will still do some of the old things (games, stuff from Merit Badges, etc.)from Handbooks of yesteryear; but it would be even better if they could actually earn badges, belt loops, or something. You know how much Scouts love to earn their recognitions. Any info that you could give me would be a great help, Thank You!

CARL MELVIN BENNETT

Scouting -- Make it Challenging, Interesting, and Fun; Keep it Simple and Make it Fun. I feel, if scouting is not a bit challenging, scouts do not find it interesting and fun. Questions: Have we "Dumbed Down" BSA Requirements? Is this correlated to a drop in membership from over 20% of scout age boys when I was a boy, to some 10% of scout age boys currently? In the 40's, when I was a scout, scouting was not for sissies. I am now over 75. Let me tell you 'Old Age' ain't for sissies either. My over 55 years in scouting helps me cope, as it has my entire life. 'BP' got it right, scouting is a game with a purpose -- building character, citizenship, and fitness through challenging, interesting, and fun "adult" activities within a boy's capabilities. Be well! YIS, Carl
"Happy Fox" Wood Badge R5-7 (1969)

Dave Self

Anyone know when books might be out for these? Or will the req's only be listed online?

CARL MELVIN BENNETT

Sherrie, I have some 7.9 MB of scanned "SCOUTCRAFTFILE" Game Cards (p31-161) from Bill Hillcourt's , BSA, "Brownsea Double Two" document, circa 1978 in "pdf" format, I could share. There may be an email sharing problem here, as some ISP's limit email attachment size to 4MB or even as low as 2MB.
I could also "snail mail" a copy as part of my 640 MB, "ScoutStuffCD", with has more scout items than you may want.
My email is: Bennettcm@knology.net.
YIS,
Carl
MC HNES Pack 327
Council 773

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